[Inner]

With the help of a government stipend and the financial aid I had left over I decided to purchase a new desktop....though now looking at the damn thing I think I went overboard. Got everything for about 1400 with 200 in rebates I need to send off.

23in lcd samsung
core i7 920
6gig ram
gts 250 1gig
3 fans
1 tb hd
samsung writemaster 22x dvd burner
18x dvd burner additional
700w PSU


MX518 mouse
G15 keyboard

I am quite pleased. I tried Warhammer on that and people are right no matter what your system is the damned game lags. Tried WoW and get a steady 60 fps in Dal on Ultra settings...though I did remove shadows and the full screen glow as I could careless about shadows and the full screen glow gives me a headache. Letting this thing run for a week to make sure there arent any problems then will start sending in rebates.

[blue-diablo]

O.O







......U gieb?

Does it come with installed maphax?

[Grym]

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With the help of a government stipend and the financial aid I had left over I decided to purchase a new desktop.

feels good doesnt it.

[Exavian]

Inner, on Sep 3 2009, 02:12 PM, said:

MX518 mouse

MX518 is teh awesome.

[DragoonWraith]

I love my MX 1000. I can't believe they discontinued it; the Revolution is just not nearly as good. I'll be very sad when this mouse dies if I can't get another.

[Ernir]

I have been out of the loop.

Are you using a 64 bit OS? Are games now being published with that in mind?
Are you using a 32 bit one? If so, have there been any ingenious ways discovered in the last two years to make those systems be able to usefully access more than 4GB of memory?

[Exavian]

Ernir, on Sep 20 2009, 04:00 AM, said:

I have been out of the loop.

Are you using a 64 bit OS? Are games now being published with that in mind?
Are you using a 32 bit one? If so, have there been any ingenious ways discovered in the last two years to make those systems be able to usefully access more than 4GB of memory?

There are games that have begun being made with 64 bit OS stuff in mind, and from what I understand the 64 bit Vista is functioning pretty well.

I think there are some games that even if running on a 32 bit OS can use more than 4 gb or RAM (I have 8 GB in mine for no particular reason other than I got 4 for free), but I could be wrong.

[DragoonWraith]

Exavian, on Sep 20 2009, 08:53 PM, said:

I think there are some games that even if running on a 32 bit OS can use more than 4 gb or RAM (I have 8 GB in mine for no particular reason other than I got 4 for free), but I could be wrong.

As I understand things, 32-bit OSes can only take advantage of 4GB of RAM, ever, period, no matter how the software is written. Or maybe it's just the extant 32-bit OSes. I know that this is true of XP and Vista x86, anyway.

[Ernir]

DragoonWraith, on Sep 21 2009, 07:55 AM, said:

As I understand things, 32-bit OSes can only take advantage of 4GB of RAM, ever, period, no matter how the software is written. Or maybe it's just the extant 32-bit OSes. I know that this is true of XP and Vista x86, anyway.

That's what I thought too. =/

[Grym]

Yep. 64 can take 8 can't it?

[Ernir]

Grym, on Sep 24 2009, 12:05 AM, said:

Yep. 64 can take 8 can't it?

Closer to 17 billion gigabytes, actually.

A 32 bit OS has a memory ceiling of 2^32 addresses. For a 64 bit one it is 2^64.

[Metalzoa]

17 Billion Gig Ram?

I'll give it three years before people start hitting that ceiling.

[DragoonWraith]

17,179,869,184 gigabytes of RAM, to be precise.

[Inner]

64-bit Vista Home Premium. The comp came with a free upgrade to Windows 7 when it is released this October so I should have the new OS cd by early November.

32-bit from what I understood, can only handle 3-4gb of ram while 64 can handle a ton. I know I have another ram slot that is open...I think the max the mobo can handle is 16-18gb ram as well as being SLI and Xfire compatible.

The 1gig GTS 250 works out great. WoW runs smoothly at a constant 60 fps at my max rez (2048x1152) on max settings so maybe thats why it never gets higher than 60 fps. I could drop the rez but then I'd see black bars on each side and I dont really want to see those :P

The bad thing with the vid card is that the things is freaking massive. It covers 2 pci-e slots itself, so if you xfire or sli it you lose all pci-e slots (have 4). I am thinking of getting a sound card eventually but the built in 7.1 works out great so I might not. When D3 comes out I will prolly Xfire 2x GTS 285 or w/e is highest at the moment if need be. Least with this comp I wont have to upgrade for a few years, although a friend was telling me that the i920/950 will soon be obsolete with a new system they have coming out within the year that has double the capacity. Rather absurd how damn fast comps are being upgraded these days and how far behind most games are in comparison.

As far as 64bit goes, I am finding a TON of things just are not compatible with it. I knew there would be issues with it but wow I mean its ridiculous. I have to use my laptop to run ArcGIS because 64bit requires a damn usb key due to security. I am anxious to see just how much better windows 7 is and if I am going to have to wipe my HD to upgrade.

[DragoonWraith]

Yeah, 64-bit has issues with compatibility; it's rather new.

[CatLady]

Hey Inner, can't remember if you mentioned in the other thread, but did you buy any extra cooling options for GPU or CPU beyond stock, with your rig? If not, hows your temps?

At first mine seemed to be ok temps wise but the longer it's on the more all that super hot air being shat out of the back of the GTX 275 (plus natural day sun) heats up my room...& before long the GPU idle temp is up at 45-50C. Stressing via gaming is 70-80C. :/

Not looking forward to messing with the original casing on the card to put on a better heatsink or fan tho...worried I might break it.

This post has been edited by CatLady: 03 November 2009 - 08:17 PM

[Inner]

CatLady, on Nov 3 2009, 07:16 PM, said:

Hey Inner, can't remember if you mentioned in the other thread, but did you buy any extra cooling options for GPU or CPU beyond stock, with your rig? If not, hows your temps?

At first mine seemed to be ok temps wise but the longer it's on the more all that super hot air being shat out of the back of the GTX 275 (plus natural day sun) heats up my room...& before long the GPU idle temp is up at 45-50C. Stressing via gaming is 70-80C. :/

Not looking forward to messing with the original casing on the card to put on a better heatsink or fan tho...worried I might break it.

Honestly, my motherboard came with a rather large heat sink cooling system. Also, there are 3 fans attached to the case one in the front that does intake, one on the clear side that does another intake, and one under the PSU that blows out the air. The temps are kept at a rather cool 35-40C and ingame it never goes higher than 50C with my GPU fan at 65%. If I ran it at 100% the comp would be in the upper 20s idling and lower 30s during games. Use the EVGA application that comes with it to adjust the fan, just remember to press Apply after sliding it or it wont change. Also, yo ucan OC but from my experience in WoW OCing the card caused some artifacts to form; also, WoW really cant run SLI/Xfire or OCing properly so it's advised to not do it (I learned why).

Alternatively, you could download Speedfan and see if you can increase the speed on the fans in your case. If the program recognizes them first of all, and secondly if it changes the speed (I really never noticed a hell of a difference). Why not buy a replacement fan(s)? You have the PSU to do it and replacing them with some higher speed ones would cool your comp off wonderfully....or buy Arctic Cool and attach a new heat sink to the mobo. After reading hte manual that came with my comp, it isn't that hard to do and Arctic cool is supposed to keep mobos very cool. Another thing you could do would be to switch the way the fans are facing and get more intake? Really, with the one fan expelling air it's pretty cool (like a mini AC) while that PSU just spits out hot air. Wondering if I form a mini low pressure system behind my case....would be fun.

[anti_dan]

CatLady, on Nov 4 2009, 01:16 AM, said:

Hey Inner, can't remember if you mentioned in the other thread, but did you buy any extra cooling options for GPU or CPU beyond stock, with your rig? If not, hows your temps?

At first mine seemed to be ok temps wise but the longer it's on the more all that super hot air being shat out of the back of the GTX 275 (plus natural day sun) heats up my room...& before long the GPU idle temp is up at 45-50C. Stressing via gaming is 70-80C. :/

Not looking forward to messing with the original casing on the card to put on a better heatsink or fan tho...worried I might break it.

How is wow stressing you that hard? Or are you playing one of the newer MMOs?

[CatLady]

anti_dan, on Nov 3 2009, 11:27 PM, said:

How is wow stressing you that hard? Or are you playing one of the newer MMOs?

I haven't played WoW in over a year. I've been playing Borderlands w/everything maxed out except AA since AA is worthless in this game if you use XP/DX9. Also, maybe, the game engine seems to be very GPU oriented. At least, the CPU usage graph hardly spikes at all when I play the game. I dunno...

The GTX cards and the i7 CPU, by reputation, tend to run a bit warm. My temps aren't terribly abnormal for the stock fans/heatsinks, but are a little on the high side. If you want the frigid 32C idle you need a very cold room or more than stock fans & heatsinks. I'd be happy if idle was a consistent 40C in an 90F room, personally, but unless I blow AC in the case I might need that water cooling after all, to get that. <_<

[Inner]

CatLady, on Nov 4 2009, 05:50 AM, said:

I haven't played WoW in over a year. I've been playing Borderlands w/everything maxed out except AA since AA is worthless in this game if you use XP/DX9. Also, maybe, the game engine seems to be very GPU oriented. At least, the CPU usage graph hardly spikes at all when I play the game. I dunno...

The GTX cards and the i7 CPU, by reputation, tend to run a bit warm. My temps aren't terribly abnormal for the stock fans/heatsinks, but are a little on the high side. If you want the frigid 32C idle you need a very cold room or more than stock fans & heatsinks. I'd be happy if idle was a consistent 40C in an 90F room, personally, but unless I blow AC in the case I might need that water cooling after all, to get that. <_<

Well, that's your fault for liking it so hot in your room and allowing direct sunlight to hit the computer (which is bad for the parts anyway). I like it super cold in my house, relatively speaking. 70-75F is pretty comfortable, anything over 80 is horrid.

Silly women and your warm blooded nature :P